are we near the end of days, is this a sign of the end????
i'm surprise they are not out.
in full force, they love this kind of stuff..
When Sputnik was launched back in 1957 they thought it fulfilled the prophesy about "fearful signs in the heavens" in the last days and if I remember correctly, the middle east and Muslim's weren't included in their old interpretation about King of the North.
I think these days, they shy away from being specific...it's more a general end time malaise they have going on.
had a conversation with my jw mother the other day.
she has been baptized for over 50 years.
i've been out for 30 years, but because both my mother and mother-in-law are jw's i keep up with all things jw.
That all being said, does anyone know if the KH's have internet, or provide FREE WI-FI?
My 84 year old Mother in Law (a real sweetheart) has an iPad and despite mild Dementia, pretty much knows how to use it but for folks like your Mom, even if the Hall does have Wifi, it wouldn't be much use to them if they don't also have it at home. During the meeting they'd be able to follow along with the program but when they have time to study and read at home, they would be unable to access JW.org etc like everyone else does and might not be able to keep abreast like the others. Elderly JW's are often marginalized as it is and this is a new form of it.
The Watchtower convinced these folks that they can't get along with Bible reading on their own and has them programmed to expect bi-monthly magazines to direct their thoughts. Suddenly, the Watchtower and Awake which were once considered the JW "lifeline", have been practically dispensed with now.
I'm beginning to wonder what will happen when these JW's start reading their Bibles on their own and begin understanding what they read, for themselves rather than being directed to connect the dot scriptures that are used to support the JW agenda.
in this experiment, mice were given a perfect environment in which to live.
for the mice you would think this was 'paradise'.
but due to their nature it did not take long for this to become a horrible place to live.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z760xny4vm.
If the WT were given a small country to govern as they see fit, I guarantee...
They'd have nothing to look forward to....no reason to feel superior to anyone.....no one to blame their problems on and they'd be sick of each other, sick of being watched and their every move directed and they'd out of their minds with boredom in no time.
what are you doing instead of the meeting?.
i'm ordering cool personalised pressies for all of my non jw family online, whilst listening to some great 80's classics (currently fade to grey, visage).
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The fireplace is lit and our little dog is stretched out in front of it, coffee is perking, pancakes on the grille, Christmas music is on the local station, Sons are on their way over and I'm happy to be facing another day rather than re-hashing how terrible and in need of destruction everyone and everything is.
Oh...what's that sound? Mrs. Zahut is steaming some milk for our coffee, it must be about ready. ...gotta go !
hi people,.
i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).
1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.
Raised
Pete
1974
2008 (faded)
34 years
Mrs. Za'hut
Raised
1979
2008 (faded)
29 years
...with a sister.
she says she knows an elder that can prove me wrong in everything i say about the organization.
i bet her that he will not be able to answer my questions and if he does, that he will tell me to have faith.
I think you will flat out win but as a result, they'll finally be able to disfellowship you for apostasy and the Sister will be publicly reproved for gambling, which will open her eyes to everything else she's been blind to and you'll both live happily ever after.
the org is now demanding money from the witnesses, via the latest letter sent to elders regarding the circuit's excess funds.
succeeded in getting elders everywhere to hand over their own congregation's "excess funds" - now their circuit's bank balances are going to be plundered.. the spineless and subservient elders will cooperate without a whimper, because they're afraid of losing their little bit of power which the org has bestowed upon them.
(john 11:48).
To me there is a difference between "should" and "must" and this letter with it's "should do this and should do that" seems mild when compared to what we've seen happening in the recent past in terms of the taking of congregation bank accounts and selling of properties that were paid for by donations etc.
What I do see however, is that in spite of the huge sums of money that has come to them recently via the sales of the Brooklyn properties, they are still pinching pennies (relatively speaking) when it comes to the comparatively small amounts of money generated at the congregation level. I mean how much do the need ? On top of the regular donations that are always coming in, they now have the equity from several multi million dollar properties that have sold. They are letting people go by the thousands, cutting back printing and cutting corners every possible way. Why do they still need to guilt little Sophia into giving them her ice cream money as well ?
Part of me thinks they are wealthier than ever and the other part of me wonders why they are cutting back and being so watchful of the congregation funds. Were the Brooklyn properties mortgaged to the hilt and the equity in them already spent trying to keep afloat these past several years? How is one to know? I'm sure the flock is clueless as to what is really happening, financially speaking, with the organization they have built their lives around.
It does appear that something serious is going on. I look forward to seeing how this all pans out and would love to know what is really going through the minds of the JW's I know.
so what scriptures do you think will never make the cut?i will start off with one to warm you all up.. 1 corinthians 4:6 - do not go beyond the things that are written,.
http://www.sciencealert.com/it-s-official-we-re-on-the-brink-of-earth-s-sixth-mass-extinction.
pretty obvious, we've deforested the planet so much it cant clean the air, we've polluted the water so much its not fit to drink, we've poisoned the soil so much it cant grow food, we use so many chemicals, its killing off the insects who pollinate.
so while on post on this site claims the end of freedom for mankind, by way of evil governments, .
pretty obvious, we've deforested the planet so much it cant clean the air, we've polluted the water so much its not fit to drink, we've poisoned the soil so much it cant grow food, we use so many chemicals, its killing off the insects who pollinate. and,
Things are not perfect by any means but the planet is far from having been so "deforested" that it can't clean the air and there is still fresh clean water available to drink in more places than not and the ground is still able to grow food and insects are still able to live and do their job. Exaggerate much?
at the beginning of the may broadcast stephen lett said this was a historic broadcast.
he explained that every member of the governing body had hosted a show and they were starting over again.
that was all the explanation he gave.
It's not surprising that they'd view their every move as historic. They are a very narcissistic self absorbed group of people who think that all of what has happened so far in history, points to them. With a warped form of humility, they believe the fate of the world is in their hands and is dependent upon what they do and they enjoy thinking of themselves as life savers and God's chosen ones. They believe God is watching and directing their every move. Although they stress the quality of humility in others, the Governing body is used to being looked upon as celebrities and have an exaggerated sense of
self-importance, believing that others cannot live or survive without their magnificent contributions. They are quick to avoid any responsibility when things go wrong and diffuse their mistakes by creating a new drama and diverting attention away or by blaming others. They regularly relay guilt and or fear inducing news and information because it makes them feel powerful when they see the guilty or fearful response others. This has been going on since the beginning and is nothing new because it works.
